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Sam2:

Actually, here, my reference to the Jews in 1948 who wrongly prayed for the Zionist State to come into being was not to RZ/MO. Rather, it seemingly refers to ordinary frum Jews (e.g. in Meah Shearim, in the Brisker Rav’s words) who didn’t have the foresight of our gedolim who saw that a Zionist State was clearly not what Hashem wanted us to have (because, for starters, it involves severe prohibitions, of course) and thus they mistakenly davened for the State instead for the true geulah.

But since you mention it, and with all due respect, since your faith claims that the Zionist enterprise is “aschalta diGeulah” (though this is originally based on R’ Kasher’s forgery, besides for the other issues with such a position and clear objections to this position that the gedolim indicated, etc.), the RZ, liChaOrah, aren’t praying for the true geulah, but rather that it should be “completed” after its decades-long “start”.

One certainly hopes that Hashem takes those tefillos in the way that they should be expressed, though, unlike when, for example, He gave us the Zionist state in 1948 instead of Mashiach because people asked for the former instead of the latter, as per the Brisker Rav.