Reply To: This is Not Related to the Theological Conundrum

Actually, I think I addressed it, but I’ll explain. If learning shelo lishma is a mitzvah, albeit on a lower level, how can it not elevate him to a status of noach shenivra

Why can’t it be a mitzvah and it’s still noach lo shelo nivra? Especially according to the Maharsha.

and, as secretagentyid said, why would it be a sam hamaves?

I pointed out that that should be stam a kashya on the gemara in Taanis (sam hamaves) or on the gemara in Berachos (noach lo shelo nivra), but not a stira.

“Shelo lishma” is a negative – NOT for it’s proper purpose – so the meaning is actually the same. What fills that void is different, which isn’t shver.

Then it should also include learning in order to get schar (for sure according to the Rambam).