This is the most absurd point I’ve read in a long-time, but let me try spelling it in simple language to you since you seem to fail to get a grasp of plain black and white English, and the other posters have given up trying to follow your circular arguments and explain it. First of all the very same cadre of posters who suddenly are ostensibly giving tochacha in an area that no wrong was done, are the very same who displayed opposition to the stringencies of tznius in the first place. In the face of being unable to answer the points, point-by-point, they’ve stooped to manufacturing a fault where none exists. I just read through the entire thread contextually. Think BIG asked for roundabout age and marital status because it makes a difference in perspective regarding the issue of discussion. And the compliment clearly was contextually made for understanding the halachos clearly. Do you really expect anyone to actually believe that these very folks are opposed to mentioning age/status (or making a compliment) between genders for halachic reasons!? Especially where that information is useful for the topic? This is the prototypical chosid shoiteh situation. It is hardly hypocritical to mention these points while in full adherence to every tznius stringency in the book. I am willing to say dollars-for-donuts that the attackers are the very same folks that will have far less vanilla inter-gender conversations. The only reason they even bring up these points, is because they have no valid arguments regarding this topic. And they know that very good and well (as much as they will now deny it).
The first attacker made the most absurd statement. He criticizes any man who dares discuss tznius! Why? Because he claims it is untznius for a man to discuss tznius! This is patently absurd on its face. The next one says that its not everyones danger that some women are dressing untzniusly. That is equally absurd. Then someone criticizes anyone who dares broach any issues he deems “controversial.” He defines this as tznius, raising children, and a whole litany of other issues he deems controversial and therefore not allowed for discussion. According to him you must accept the most watered-down standards the biggest liberal comes up with, and “aloha” accept it.
You call that tochacha? I call that a joke. Perpetrated by a cadre of folks being unable to elevate themselves to proper adherence, so instead they try to bring down anyone else whose standards they feel threatened by (without the other person even imposing anything on them!) It is no wonder people don’t bother responding to these kind of circular arguments (that will now undoubtedly be repeated in response to this comment, using slightly new words), as they are repeatedly made instead of addressing the issue at hand. And the thing about this, it is so obvious and self-explanatory, that the only reason these folks keep making these same false points, is to try to put those who do support upholding the proper tznius laws on the defensive and to keep repeating themselves. And that is why they are ignored. The points were made. If you care about the Torah you will follow it. If you don’t care about the Torah you will find 100 different excuses why the mussar was wrong, the person who gave it was wrong, and whatever other drivel you can conjure up. And for the rest of us it is unbeneficial to exert additional effort in convincing, where clearly they don’t want to be convinced of the truth, or anything for that matter. And that is why you can have the final word, and convince yourself in your mind that you are right. Nothing will ever change your perception of what you think is reality.
And one final point. I see a few attackers call those who support fully upholding the tznius laws as “very frum, “frummer”, etc. It is very telling that these “very frum” posters never called themselves any frummer than anyone else. It is the attackers who identified them as being frummer.