ubequitin,
There are ways to punish China and Russia, if they don’t support sanctions.Like “forget” to pay the debt.
Stir up Eastern Europe against Russia and “reset” again and build the missile shield in Poland.
What! we just go, oh my! no options, let the bad guys win, is that the American way! Well, I guess if the people who should no better than anyone else, what is right and what is wrong, what is true and what is false, what is of value and what is transient, what is freedom and what is slavery, I’m talking about good observant Jews here, well I guess then, if this “fever” has infected even the likes of these, then there really is no hope in man and only H’ can solely save us.
Let’s hope that Iran slips up (or N. Korea) and then maybe again we’ll see the “Sleeping Giant” rise from the ashes. Nothing else is going to help to stir the complacent mood.
Besides , there is plenty of evidence that Iran, even with China, and to a lesser extent Russia, violating the sanctions, was suffering, and Pitom! let’s start “negotiations.”
Support for rebels against the regime does not consist of platitudes of “I support the Iranian people in their quest for freedom.” It involves actively getting help to them , Obama, Clinton, et. al. had no trouble finding a way to support Libyan , a.k.a Muslim Brotherhood rebels. They always find a way to support those who they are truly friendly with.
I really can’t believe that some people (I’ve developed an aversion to the word “folks”(wonder why)) cannot see how this has played out.
First you delay sanctions that, implemented earlier, could have more impact.
Second, you sneak around behind your legislative body and “allies”back and start negotiations, aimed at legalizing the Iranian path to the bomb
Third, you set up public “negotiations” when the sanctions are starting to take effect.
Fourth, you not only give them a path to the bomb but legalize trade in arms and ballistic missiles
Fifth, You make no mention of the most secret Installations or intercontinental ballistic missile systems.
Sixth,You make agreements to help them protect against any sabotage of their work and research, thereby thwarting a reasonable method Israel has to slow down or thwart their path.
NO GUYS, there was “NOTHING” that could have been done other than this deal.
Truth is this deal was wanted, planned for and sought after, it was more trouble convincing the French than the Iranians, because the Iranians had nothing to lose and for the US “negotiators” it played into their primary intention, to set up a new order in the M.E.