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kj chusid:
Dismantle the whole state problem solved
And replace it with what? Palestinian rule? Tribal rule? A big graveyard?
tirtza:
Let the Arabs decide what to do with all their refugees.
Somehow, I don’t think we’d like whatever decision they would make.
Israel should… permit those Arabs, dwelling in Yehuda and Shomron, who can prove that they will be loyal citizens, to apply for citizenship
How would you suggest determining who would or would not be a loyal a citizen?
And even loyal Israeli Arab citizens (which are rare, but certainly exist) water down the Jewish character of the state and give more political power to those who rarely see eye to eye with us.
And to all the folks who criticize Medinat Israel. “If you aren’t part of the solution, you’re part of the problem.”
That’s a pretty black and white view of things. There is something called constructive criticism, and even criticism that is not constructive does not actually add to the problem. But either way, that has very little to do with the subject at hand.
assurnet:
charliehall is right on the mark; in today’s world annexing land without offering its residents citizenship would never be tolerated. Just look at what the world’s reaction was to Russia’s annexation of Crimea; and that was by a far bigger international player than Israel, who did grant citizenship to the native residents. The trail of tears was a very long time ago, when standards were very different. Try anything like that today and you’d get diplomatic isolation and crippling sanctions.
The modern business world simply can’t compete without using technologies that come out of this country even if they wanted to.
Even if that were true (which its not; Silicon Valley is where the really crucial stuff come from), the cat already is out of the bag. Whatever technology was invented in Israel is now known to the world, and you can’t recall technical know-how.
we will take care of things the Torah way and (less importantly) the middle-eastern way over here in our actual land.
Would you mind bringing an actual source as to what to what this “Torah way” is, and how it should be implemented?
And I wouldn’t suggest putting too much faith in Middle Eastern methods; the region is hardly a shining beacon of peace and prosperity.