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BarryLS1
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PAA, I agree with you. The problem is that people get so fixated on their position that nothing else matters. They just get more and more extreme when things don’t go their way.

The bottom line to me is that the creation and existence of the State of Israel, though it’s current status is certainly not the Jewish ideal, is obviously Min HaShomayim. The nissim that take place here is unbelievable. The stages are being set for the ultimate geulah and we can make it come in the best way possible, with the least hardship to us, if we stop the nonsense bickering.

The secular founders did some horrendous things that are well documented. They also did some good things. They spent, irrespective of their motivations, more money to support Torah learning than ever before in history. Hashem often uses that which appears to be profane to fool the Sitra Achra; such as Yehuda and Tamar, Rus and others such situations. It seems to me that the secular founding of the State is just another such example.

Hashem decided that it was time for us to come home. The secularists were the primary ones to take the initiative to make it happen and they deserve credit for that.

What happens from now on is up to us. The religious world is so fractured with political and control issues, with the Yeshiva world split in to so many self serving factions that its ridiculous.

If the Chareidi and Dati world would join forces with the traditional world, i.e. semi-religious and very spiritual Sfardim, the country would change over night.

So instead of pointing fingers at the secularists or others, we need to reflect inwards and work for the greater good of Am Yisroel without all this petty nonsense.

Hashem Yiracheim if we don’t. We only have ourselves to blame.