Reply To: The first flowering of our redemption.

Squeak, if you live in Israel you are over on divrei kabbla (Yirmiahu 29,7). If not you are in effect saying that either you do not want Hashem to send his light to its leaders and/or you do not want peace and happiness for its residents. This is a violation of v’ahavta l;reicha kemocha.

HaKatan,

1. On the contrary, sovereignty is a Tora obligation.

2. Jewish blood (“rivers” is a tremendous exaggeration) were shed by the Arabs and indirectly by the British. The sun set on their empire. The Turks also lost their empire when they tried to interfere.

3. At least in Israel citizens can arm themselves. In America there is no defense against the crazies. Even pepper spray and mace are severely restricted in the US and in Canada they are illegal.

3. Are you saying that the Satan acts contrary to Hashem’s wishes? This is religious dualism.

Coffee Addict, do you have another candidate for the king in question? What other leader has set out to destroy the entire Jewish people?