I was responding to the second discussion.
So was I (to you).
Pashut p’shat in not being adayan rodef is that he is no longer a threat. I am maintaining that under the circumstances he still is (aside from possibly being currently armed).
As I pointed out originally in this thread, if those who were there had considered him a real threat to be a suicide bomb (or other weapon), then no one would have been allowed to be near him (which IMHO (and I don’t get a say) should be SOP).
So what “threat” are you talking about?