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🍫Syag Lchochma
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Do I disagree with any of it? I thought I said I didn’t. I disagreed with you attributing any of those thoughts to me in the places where you said, “you would probably” etc

I will try to elaborate but I think it may be too subtle (though I never would have believed so) –

In the table example with the presents. I was describing that scenario as “wrong” (loosely put). Im hearing from your response that you thought i called it wrong because people will feel bad from it and we shouldn’t hurt people’s feelings even if the Torah dictates something.

I was saying that what was wrong was thinking that because we cannot give him a gift, it makes room for us to carry out that mitzvah in ANY WAY we see fit. If we want to do it in the way i described above, well that’s just 100% fine because the Torah said not to give him gifts.

My argument has two important steps –

1. is about taking a halacha and being true to it but carrying it out in ways that are NOT prescribed/condoned by halacha, even lichatchila (the table scenario)

2. when someone speaks out against THAT SPECIFIC aspect of the behavior mentioned in #1, people accuse them of not accepting the halacha and heirarchy, when really they are ONLY objecting to the disgusting display of poor middos and ahavas habrios, not the halacha.

There are those who DO indeed want to make the halachos ‘feel’ better and they are WRONG! But they are two very different thoughts.