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I think you missed my point about Satmar. How many people who regulally go to satmar dont dress , speak and act like one. In MO places there is more a gammut of people and some who go really arent religious, but are placed in the MO community. I went to a MO school at least half the kids who went were not relgious at home. At least they tried how many more Charedi places would take someone more on the fringe of religiousity , the upside is many will stay, but the downside is many will leave.