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Talk about puzzling, this last post is off the charts.

Actually, I concur with you- if you are taking the subway to go a long way to go to shul (which is the subject of Rav Goldschmidt sefer), it would be muttor if you don’t pay.

How are you concurring with me when I’ve said it’s assur? You’re not even concurring with your previous post.

As far as visiting your mother or a sick person, there is not immediate need to visit that person on Shabbos.

That completely missed the point. You haven’t explained why it’s maris ayin when nobody knows or should be making any assumptions as to where you’re going.

As far as “zilzul” Shabbos, can you show me any sources pre-this generation of Poskim?

Yes, in fact I have! The Shoel Umaishiv lived about a hundred and fifty years ago (I’m not sure when that teshuvah was written and don’t have time to check now).

The concept actually goes back to the gemara in Shabbos about a noisy mill. The Rema paskens that it’s assur to put wheat in before Shabbos despite the fact that no issur is being done.

Poskim in each generation are simply applying the concept to new applications as they come up.

Chutzpah or no chutzpah, it is a legitimate question and don’t you think it deserves an answer?

It is only legitimate if you ask respectfully, not assuming they made it up and are wrong. Nevertheless, I answered it, but you have a lot of thinking to do about how you approach the words of those much greater than you.