May I add question 5b?
What happens to the all the women who fill their plates with the salads?
Never mind that with all the oil and sugar the poor baby greens are drowned in, a plateful has more calories than a generous slice of that famous caramel cake…
My question is-
With all the ladies avoiding mezonos and not drinking hagafen, are they actually yotzei Kiddush? Does eating a plate of vegetables and a cube of melon allow you to be yotzei kiddush be’makom seudah?