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SJSinNYC
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Hereorthere, I think you are really stretching if you say I am illogical for using the term marriage vs relationship. What is especially ironic is that womens liberation is THE BEST ANTIDOTE to abusive marriages as it teaches women to stand up for themselves and gives them the proper tools to be able to leave an abusive marriage.

Both men and women do illogical things for love.

I didn’t say those who stayed because of love were logical. I don’t claim that all women are logical. Nor do I claim all men are logical.

I’m not ignoring facts and you seem to be getting worked up over this. I wonder if you are threatened by the idea that women can be great secular leaders?

I never claimed that a male police officer is doing the exact same thing as a female police officer. What I did say was that IF they are both doing the same tasks, then they should be paid the same. The truth is, pure strength is not always the best way to guage the effectiveness of a cop or firefighter. If you have all brawn, but no brains, its often useless and can get a cop or firefighter in trouble. If you have all brain and no brawn, in certain positions you are fine. I think a balance of both is best. Just because a man is 6’2″ and 250 lbs doesn’t mean he is a good cop. A woman can be an excellent detective and be short and not that strong.

Do you know any cops? My cousin is one. A friend of mine was a detective. My friend’s husband is a cop.

I love how you quantify the level of illogical. There are women who think “handsome southern gentleman” (AKA Bill Clinton) would make a great president because handsome southern gentlemen are generally upstanding, moral citizens. You can explain any illogical idea to make it sound more logical, but unless you are judging the persons actions and personality, you are making an illogical choice.

I didn’t say our union employees are well paid – I said they get EQUAL pay. And they should. There are many job functions where men and women are doing the exact same thing and expected to produce the same amount. Gender should NOT play a role.

I’ve been on construction jobs where someone came over and complained that only one of the crew was working. I always had a logical reason – one was a fire guard, one was waiting for a permit for different work, it was unsafe for multiple people to be working at the same time at that function etc. From the outside, it always looks like “the big bad utility/transit/road crews etc” is taking advantage of the little people. Con Ed negotiates with their union just as the MTA does.

As to lower the height requirements – a good cop will you tell you that using strength is a LAST resort, not a first resort. Cops are given tools to contain situations and each person needs to tailor it to the right situation. Sometimes, that means pairing up a smaller person with a larger one and having a great combination of brain and brawn. Do you think cops go around roughhandling people all the time?

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