I just powerwalked and met two Chassidishe women in turbans and SAS shoes powerwalking. Now these women who are bringing up large erliche families are being judged here, because they like me could’ve jumped on the treadmill and then sat outside in the backyard where nobody sees us. Instead we went for a powerwalk.
So that’s it? If some people in klal Yisroel does something that is in the eyes of others assur the other has a right to judge them?
missme, you wrote “well, if the Rabbonim insisted on them following things K’Halacha, there might be a revolution by those people. They might go completely off the derech. So the Rabbonim don’t crack down even on things that are really kneged halacha, so that they can convince these people to at least keep some of the important stuff. “
What you are essentially saying is that Rabbonim are not assuring things that should be assured because the people will rebel. I don’t understand how any person can say Rabbonim are not acting in a certain way where they don’t speak out against people doing the wrong thing because of the tzibbor’s reaction. Goodness!
Now when I explained to you that the Rabbonim are not afraid of a “revolution” because they have assured a lot of things for our generation, you still attack me as you wrote ” clearheaded… what’s your point in saying that numerous ossurim Rabbonim have made in our current times, that our parents were never restricted of?? are you chas vshalom thinking the Rabbonim Shlita (or zt”l) made things up??? c’v!! “
I have NOT EVEN REMOTELY implied that Rabbonim make this up! I have as explained above said that Rabbonim assur a lot of things these days and they are not afraid of a revolution. Is that what you think of our holy nation that we will rebel if we are told to do something?
Furthermore you are bashing me, a woman who sacrificed a lot to do right thing and GO AGAINST MY NATURE TO STAY HOME AND BE A STAY AT HOME MOM FOR MY BABY AND BE HOME WHEN MY KIDS COME HOME. I don’t understand how anyone could bash someone saying that being home is boring and despite that stays home because she feels its right. Do you thing I created my inborn nature, or do you think Hashem gave it to me?
I don’t undersatnd how one can bash someones stating the facts of life (me), klal Yisroel, Rabbonim, or debate reality because it doesn’t fit their beliefs. I don’t think that’s called debating honestly.
If you want to see how I debate in an honest fashion, go look in the Worms in Fish thread and see how after one post I was debating something that I wasn’t sure what halacha as it pertains to me (i.e. what my Rov holds- Rabbonim have different opinions on this issue)is. I called up my Rov and got my facts straight. And then when I made an opinion regarding this halacha and someone condradicted me and also suggested I ask my Rov why he poskened as he did. Despite feeling uncomfortable to bother him, but wanting to know the facts I called up my Rov again. Sure enough that other person was right and I conceded to that other poster by saying he’s right. Check it out. you can see exactly what I’ve written in the Worms in Fish thread.
That’s called debating in an honest fashion. You get your facts right and don’t attack the other person for having a diiferent shitta than you.
I wanted to finish off with air out, not air when I go to the mall. In any case, yes I will be judged for going to the mall by Hakodesh Burach Hu himself who sees and knows what a sacrifice it is for me be a stay at home mom.
If you want to make sure that every aspect of your life is observed according to “explicit” posukim and meforshim then go ahead. But you cannot critisize me for disagreeing with you.
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