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Person1 – Joseph is right that we shouldn’t take our values from Western society. If there are Western values that are emesdik, that is only because they are Torah values. We shouldn’t have those values because they are Western values, but rather because they are Torah values.
Obviously, realistically, it is hard to not be influenced by Western values, but it is something we do have to strive for.
I believe in equality (according to a certain definition) because I think it comes from the Torah and not from Western society. Joseph disagrees with me because he thinks it does not come from the Torah. Personally, I think that chauvinism comes from the goyish culture and not from the Torah; it just comes from the goyish culture of old as opposed to the goyish culture of today.
But in any case, a Jew’s value’s must come from the Torah. The only question to be asked is: What are the Torah’s values?