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american_yerushalmi
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I enjoy reading the folks living on the other side of the pond pontificating about what they think goes on in E.Y. When you’ve lived here for nearly 4 decades, you are just more aware of what is really happening. There is so much stuff going on that people don’t hear about, that never gets back to Williamsburg, Monroe, Lakewood, or anywhere else. Brisk and Satmar do not haul their own trash, provide their own street lighting, have their own private telephone company, and do not have their private fire department or ambulance service (when Hatzola answers a call and decides an ambulances is needed, they themselves call the regular MDA ambulance service; this is known from personal experience.) And for those who are not aware, Brisk participates in municipal elections. Because that’s what the Brisker Rav, Rav Velvel Soloveitchik zt”l instructed them to do.

Akuperma seems to think that all non-Satmar chareidim are required to disobey / disavow the decisions of the Chazon Ish, the Steipeler, Rav Isser Zalman Meltzer, Rav Zalman Sorotzkin, Rav Leizer Sach, Rav Elyashiv, zt”l just to name a few that come to mind, and follow what he thinks Rav Yoel mi’Satmar zt”l held. This, despite the opinion of nearly all the non-Satmar rabbonim of today — led by Rav A.L. Shteinman, Rav C. Kanievsky shlit”a — who also rule that it is permissible to take Zionist money.

In any case, nowadays, some institutions that outwardly deny accepting such funding are quietly taking money under different budget items from different government ministries, not the Education Ministry. According to akuperma, only those following the Satmar agenda are “real chareidim” but those who follow their rabbeim or any other gadol, like the Chazon Ish, Rav Shach, the Steipeler, etc. — are not real chareidim. Us non-Satmarers do not expect the Satmarers to disobey their rebbe. So, why should the Satmerers (incl. akuperma) expect us to disobey ours?

This is entirely separate from the question whether the state should accept U.S. money or not. This is a much less relevant question, as you can all be quite sure the Israeli govt. is not paying much attention to what some talkbackers are writing in the YWN CR.

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