People are willing to condem Rav Kook for not seeing that a real torah state does not currently exist in Israel, but how many are willing to condem those who said torah could not exist in the US or Israel? and their unwillingness to see that it could probably helped exaserbate the sitation today. had more yeshivas been built in NY before WW II, and even WW I the yiddishkeite situation would likely be differnet than it is today
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