Writersoul, I wanted to clarify something that may not be clear from my above posts: You wrote: “One thing- first you say “many gedolim” might not agree with Zionism, then you say “the gedolim.” Wouldn’t that itself- the implication that some of “the gedolim” might not be as against Zionism as “
I did not mean to imply that there are Gedolim who are in favor of zionism. I was deliberately trying to be vague and state things in such a way that leaves room for either possibility (that there may be some Gedolim who advocate zionism or there may be none.) This was partly because I am not 100% what Daas Torah is on the topic, and I did not want to make a definitive statement about something that I am not 100% sure of.
Also, I was not really interested in getting into an anti-zionist debate. Amongst other things, these types of debates can be unpleasant and sound like attacking, etc, and I hate arguments, and only engage in them when I feel it is necessary. After reading your post, I felt it necessary to state my views. But I sincerely hope that nothing I wrote came across as attacking (I can’t imagine it did, but if it did, I apologize as it was completely unintentional).
Again, I do not claim to have all the answers on the topic, and it is entirely impossible that I am mistaken about some of the things I wrote. This is simply my general understanding of the topic, and I do not claim to be an expert on it.