“Yeshivish” and “Chasidish” are both grouped under the “Chareidi” moniker, in the popular usage.
Says you, and the political Agudah who wants to self-identify with “Charaidim” in Israel. For most of the Agudah members, they would not be identified as Charaidi if they lived in Israel.
The Agudah, both in America (i.e. Rabbi Avi Shafran) and in Israel (Degel HaTorah), have often subscribed to self-identification under the term.
You’re echoing my point that it is identification for political purposes, not reflecting the reality of what they believe. As I said above, Avi Shafran would not be considered a Charaidi in Israel, and would be run out of Eidah Charaidus territory if he lived there.
But sure, if you want to define “Charaidi” as “Anyone who keeps the Torah who isn’t a Zionist”, then I’ll define MO as “Anyone who keeps the Torah who uses electricity”. That way everyone can be MODERN.
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