LU :” Chassidism was such a change whether or not you support it.”
“Again, chassidim deny this. I deny that religious zionism was a change. You deny Daas Torah was a change. that is my point”
Are you sure that Chassidim deny that? I never discussed it with a Chassid, but I would find it hard to believe. I brought that as an example because I assumed it was something that everyone agreed to.
Saying something is a change doesn’t necessarily make it wrong. Not the way the term “change” is being used here. Unless the word “change” is being used to mean that chasv’shalom someone is trying to change Torah and Mitzvos, which is not the way the term “change” was being used in this thread.
I think that the Dati-Leumi would agree that the Dati-Leumi movement was a new movement even though they think it’s correct. I think that Lubavitchers would agree that Lubavitch was a new movement even though they think it’s good (I don’t want to say “correct” because I don’t know if they say that everyone should be Lubavitch). And the same with every Chassidus.