GAW- I would be interested in knowing how you define “Charedi’ism”. I don’t think you have said anything in this thread about your own definition.
I believe it is a societal construct, specific to Israel, and doesn’t really mean its original meaning (a Charad L’devar Hashem) in normal usage anymore. Americans don’t really have the concept in the same way that Israelis do, because the societies are much more fluid (as an example, Lakewood davens and speaks in Young Israels).
For example, Rav Shachter would be an “original definition Chareidi” (AKA a Charad L’Devar Hashem), not what we call a “Chareidi” in Israel in the normal day to day usage of the term. There are (mistama) many “Chareidim” who are not “Charad L’devar Hashem”.
Therefore, if we can agree that as a term in every-day use it only applies in Israel, I’ll agree to allow you to define it. Once you claim it applies to us here in America, you will have to change the definition 🙂
But ok Pizza is delicious. Maskim?
Agreed 🙂
IITFT – Just means Lakewood doesn’t follow its own Daas Torah!! Perhaps even for good reason (al pi Torah) 😛