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“He wasn’t against Michlalah because of the secular studies.”
Have you read it? I’ll be happy to provide quotes later.
“That’s not completely true. The boys … ”
Fair enough, I was referring primarily to boys but (Michlala was but one example)
“Also, it is not SO different in EY than in the US. In the US, the more Yeshivish Yeshivas”
This is a very new development. And strngthens my point, as it is further change that we can see unfolding in charedi orthodoxy as we speak.
“Not sure what you mean by that. My whole point was that these types of things do not define Chareidiism any more than whether one drives a car or rides a horse to get to Shul.”
what I meant was that you were right in identifying a change in charedi Judaism (kudos to you, many will insist it was always this way)
where you then go wrong in is downplaying the significance of the change. An aversion to secular studies is one of the defining practical characteristics of charedi Jewry today. IT is not something that always existed.