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Chortkov
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@Rebshidduch:

yekke2, do you consider boys who go to movies modern?

If the answer has to be as straight as that, definitely yes.

I consider a guy who only keeps shabbos and kosher and nothing else to be modern.

Is “Modern” synonymous with “not observant”? I thought we were talking about Frum people (definition: People who keep all 613 commandments), and were discussing Yeshivish/Modern in terms of ideology. We are going to have to change language if people who aren’t Frum are entering the equation.

In between is someone who watches movies, does not talk to girls, listens to not Jewish music and learns at least part time to be in between

But you want someone who does talk to girls, wasn’t that already established in other threads? I’m almost sure you said your dating a boy you give lifts to and is a friend and shows you tattoos?

and yeshivish someone who learns in kollel.

Yeshivish is not defined by the amount of hours a person learns. There are many people “in learning” but not Yeshivish, and many more people who are not in Kollel but are Yeshivish. It refers to the mindset of a Ben Torah. There are, unfortunately, too many Bnei Torah who for reasons of Parnassah are not in Kollel. Yeshivish would probably be better defined by how many hours a man wants to learn rather than how many hours he actually does.