Again, please stop putting people in boxes
It’s difficult to have an objective discussion about these type of things without labels. I agree that labels are not definitive, are often misleading, and that it doesn’t mean anything for someone to associate himself with a specific sector (see the “No-True-Scotsman” thread). But to compare and contrast Yeshivos would be impossible without some form of labelling.
To be fair, what I was trying to say about Yeshivish (and it was misunderstood by Rebshidduch, and I see no toeles in arguing it out) was exactly that – judging people’s actions when you can’t know the motives and factors involved in decisions is wrong, and that is really where labels mix us up. The fact that you learn in Kollel doesn’t make you a Ben Torah. It is about attitude, mindset, priorities. If you don’t want to give it a name, אשריך וטוב לך.
It’s our choices that truly define us, far more than our abilities.