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SarahLevine613
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It took me a while to get to a post i liked — but this one i did — because while somewhat obnoxious — it is interesting. In part:

“One can’t complain that their converts act like the rest of the “modern orthodox” community, and that community tends to have very “creative” interpretations of halacha (which allows them to eat kosher ingredients prepared on cold non-kosher utensils, participating in sports as long as one lets a non-Jew handle the money, carrying in a Karmelis, dressing in manners that frum Jews find objectionable, etc.). One doesn’t expect Ivanka Trump to be frumer than her family’s rabbi, and especially, one doesn’t expect her to be frumer than her husband.”

First, I am modern orthodox (or at least some strain of that). I agree that it is clear that Modern Orthodox converts are going to be modern orthodox. Second, the halacha require fealty and allegiance to halacha — not necessarily 100% observance. GASP? Of course thats true. Is chalav yisroel required? Yoshon? Hair covering? Etc. Do i have to ask all of you? And you are right, are all modern orthodox gerim (even those many who went through “Frum” batei din — invalid. Uh….no. Third, I dont believe all of the interpretations above are “creative.” Cold utensils etc…. thats the halacha. Benyomo/aino ben yomo — halacha. Not sure who allows carrying in a karmelis without an eruv. I am not sure what the sports example is? Going to games on shabbos? Who paskened its ok? Sometimes — people get asked questions — how should i do this, if I am gonig to do this. Very different.