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blubluh
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ubiquitin: Regarding Torah support of Capitalism, true, the Torah does impose limits on Capitalism. Limitations, however, support my position. Those very examples you cite *only* occur under Capitalism.

For examkple, in a true Socialist society there can be no violation of ribbis since there are no private funds available for lending. There is also no need to protect one’s gvul from encroachment by another because there are no private or competing gvulim (enterprises).

In response to my statement “Taxes imposed by a king are paid by the individual” you noted that US taxes are paid by the individual. But, that’s precisely my point; the US economy is based on Capitalism not Socialism.

Finally, I suggested no controversy with regard to essential services (police, fire, sanitation, etc.). I was merely listing services we expect the government to provide (meaning, pay for via taxes). The debate here is what other services belong on that extensive – and expensive – list and to what extent.

Providing food, shelter and healthcare to the indigent are examples of charitable services. My point is that charity is a burden to be borne by each individual, not a government, unless the government is acting as an agent on behalf of its citizens. Otherwise, one could argue that taxpayers have automatically fulfilled their annual maaser obligation. I do not recall any halachic authority making such a claim.