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ubiquitin
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Of course I truncated he shulchan aruch. IT is a long book
(though i did mention seyesh bahem chayei nefesh)

the discussion isnt about today vs yesterday.

The discussion is whether the Torah supports Free market capitalism.
Of severla examples I gave one of them is athe above mentioned halacha that beis din makes sure people dont overcharge (this is but one specific din in onaas maamon the very existence of which is diametricly opposed to free market capitalism).
So even if you make the bizzare argument that today everything has substitutes (I’ll tell that to the next meshulach who says he cant put bread on his table, “so what just find a substitute” maybe cake?)
my point STILL stands, as in a world with no substitutes or an item that is vital say I control all the water in town,I am limited how much profit I can make.
Halachicly this limit isnt determined by the free market but by halacha/the torah yes or no?

“Free enterprise results in lower prices.”
could be. Sadly the Torah doesnt feel that way.

“The issur of ribbit is also mostly as inapplicable today as carrying on Shabbat. ”
I’m sorry bt that sounds like kefira. There is an issur deoraysa to lend with ribis and to carry on Shabbos in a reshus harabim. IT is important to me that you know that.
If you want to thin out your shulchan aruch and get rid of these halachos so you have less to learn, ok but they apply 100% completely and always will. This is one of the ikarei emuna.

Again, yes in modern societies it isnt practical to not lend with interest, . So the Rishonim (not Hile as mentionedl) came up with heter iska where it is viewed as an investment and not a loan.
however lending with ribbis is 100% assur and always will be. It is important to me that you understand that.
In other words the Torah put a limit on how I can profit from my own money,
This too is in diametric opposition to capitalism.