Happened to glance in to this thread, did not really follow most of the back and forth. Yet I believe that someone compared our healthcare system here in the USA vs other government run health care systems.
If one were to compare the standard of care, I am sure that there wouldn’t be much of a difference between our healthcare system and those of government run systems. Yet the countries that have government run health care systems do not really let the individual navigate through the health care system, nor is the individual entitled to decide which course of treatment they should take. all is decided by the government (unless one is willing to pay cash).
The average or maximum wait time for some basic procedures is weeks or even months (these can be found on the Canadian and UK Government websites) , while over here the patient usually is able to get an MRI and surgical consult within days, in those places the patient usually waits a few months for an appointment.