The little I know,
The matter at hand was a generalization that all OTD kids are to be permanently rejected, zero kiruv, and no possibility of teshuvah
No, that’s not the matter at hand. This position which you attribute to Satmar dayanim represents an extreme that both of us agree is not correct. Your persistence in refuting it in response to my posts does nothing to respond to what I have written, therefore it seems to me like nothing more than a straw man. I am raising two objections about the parenting philosophy that you have introduced on this thread, which I believe goes to the unhealthy opposite extreme of the so-called Satmar philosophy:
1. Lack of boundaries in the home. So far you have responded using a series of lengthy feints – either re-characterizing reasonable boundaries in the home as restrictive or punitive rules on the child (which they are not), or making it sound like you agree about the importance of boundaries, but then justifying their removal. This is dangerous and destructive both for the child in question and the home. Responding by telling me again how bad the “Satmar” extreme is does not address this.
2. A setup that seems to incentivize going OTD, particularly for families with more than one child. You can chastise my intelligence or stability for bringing this question up all you want, but it’s a legitimate issue and you have failed to address it. GAON offered his own response, and I responded to him as well, which you can read above if you want.
If you want to say let’s agree to disagree, I’m fine with that. But I don’t want my position misrepresented in the process.