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🍫Syag Lchochma
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Ok, I think we need to clarify a couple things. SY – you need to just chill out. On the last thread, though there were legitimate questions, there was a lot of spewing and emotions on BOTH sides of the proverbial fence. But you need to stop throwing a fit and calling people out for blood because they are questioning concepts that they have been taught are WRONG. just as you are fighting against what you were taught is WRONG. So calm down.
CS – I would like you to step back a second and have some understanding for what you are saying that you might not hear (which will explain why you don’t understand the responses you are being given). When someone raised learning from sources that loose pants are acceptable for women approaches me about why I believe she is not clothed b’tzniut, that is not called an attack. And I shouldn’t need to have contractual agreements about the preface for our conversations in order to answer her. You are talking to intelligent, learned, Torah observant Jews who have been learning and following talmidei chochomim for generations. Giants in Torah. If they want to ask you a question about things they have been told are foundation of your observance, that THEY have learned are wrong – you are wrong telling them: they are too simple to absorb your lofty learnings (there are plenty unlearned and “simple” chabadniks too) , or theat they are being disrespectful. You may not understand how your comments about the Rebbe are very very belittling of all the great Gaonim of the generations in our eyes just as you feel our non acceptance is disrespectful to you.

You are going to have to accept that non chabadniks are entitled to defend their mesorah and Torah against anything they feel threatens it, and your job as a shlucha here is to provide that knowledge that would teach them why they are incorrect in that premise. But to start slamming doors on people for not holding your rebbe in the highest regard, which would go against our own mesorah, while you are unknowingly doing the same is just wrong.

You may have to accept that there are people who have learned Chabad ways are wrong, they are asking you to give them information to change that understanding, and that the answer to all the questions CANNOT be expected to be: you are all too simple, you have to acknowledge who my rebbe was before i will tell you why you should, and you have to accept everything he says even if you believe that your years of learning have taught you different.

I don’t think you realize you are saying this, and I think you believe you aren’t, but that is how it is coming across. If you want respect for your Rebbe and your derech. then explain why, and allow people to respect their mesorah, Torah and gedolim as well.