“that wasn’t my claim. you have made several comments about how your concepts are too deep for most of us and have commented several times that it’s too hard to understand. Mostly because someone disagreed and you assumed it was a lack of comprehension.”
They are deep and delicate concepts, and my concern is that that in conveying them correctly. And yes from the some of the results i got, it seems I didn’t fully convey the concept correctly so I tried to add in more. Its my achrayus to try to convey properly as much as yours to try to understand what I say. I don’t see that as offensive.
” that we too have rebbeim and Torah giants and a mesorah and will also defend our Rebbeim and Torah so asking us to set aside what we know is right and wrong so that you can feel respected is not acceptable”
I did not see one Rebbe or Torah giant quoted. In any case I think I made it clear that it totally fine to discuss, but to say things like your Rebbe’s sicha is…. Cvs, is completely unacceptable. No one here should think they’re greater than the tens of gedolim who met and consulted with the Rebbe. I wouldn’t mind if he said something like, “I don’t understand how this quote of the Rebbe doesn’t contradict this halacha…” But for him to pasken on the Rebbe is not acceptable which is why I can’t continue answering his questions
“, it was claiming the Rebbe is the brain”
Ya that’s in Tanya perek beis, and the Zohar brings the part of all of us being the same neshama. Wasn’t sure which one you wanted the source for so I gave both. Tanya says “Roshei bnei Yisrael shebidoram” exact quote.
“As I said, you are asking for respect but not willing to acknowledge the disrespect to our own gedolim and talmidei chochomim. Please understand that.”
Don’t see where I disrespected any gadol please enlighten me.
“that is not special for lubavitch. that is how we all do things and how we all see the messages delivered by our gedolim and rabbeim. The problem is the Rebbe is not alive and could not have told you that. He is not here to be a personal messanger and give you advice. and THAT is what is in question.”
Actually one of the questions is how we can ask the Rebbe for anything, instead of only Hashem – see the title of this thread.
Joseph added that part, so I was starting to answer with first explaining about the concept of what a Rebbe is. I don’t know what is normal or not normal for you because things that I take for granted, some people here are railing about. If everything I said is so obvious why are people upset and what’s the question anyway? Every time I answer one, the question becomes something else.
I can continue answering if everything I said until now is clear, and people phrase things respectfully. Also, now I think I’m not understanding you properly and we’re miscommunicating. So I don’t know if I should continue if I’m confusing, or misunderstanding you and you misunderstanding me. I think the main concept I gave over, lmk if that’s all clear. If it is and we’re on the same page, I can continue.