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ubiquitin
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“Even the small countries in Europe, with all their Gun Control, have a bigger problem with Terrorism than the US”

Yes and they have a lower infant mortality, but what does that have to do with anything?

At any rate though since you insist on mixing in terrorism, you think expanding the no-fly-list to be a no-gun-list would INCREASE terrorism?

Mentch
“Sure I have some die hard second amendment fans that feel rights are absolute.”
Sadly though with groups like the NRA targeting specific elections over this one issue saner voices are ignored.
Take backgroubnd checks whihc you seem to favor. It has near universal support even among gun owners. In 1999 after columbine Wayne Lappiere said “We think it’s reasonable to provide mandatory instant background checks for every sale at every gun show. No loopholes anywhere, for anyone”

Yet their more recent position is “The NRA opposes criminalizing private firearms transfers between law-abiding individuals, and therefore opposes an expansion of the background check system”

Yes there are some silly points from the LEft that the right likes harping on like misuse of the term “assault rifles” or confusing automatic wit h semi-automatic, though I fai lto understand why that should lesson support for wha tmost on the right think is good policy.

you ask
“1)the 300M guns cant disappear without confiscation. And then you run into the issues Ive already mentioned (non compliance and massive resistance resulting in millions of new felons, perhaps even violence)”

I dont know, though that is a terrible argument to keep the status quo. Maybe a buyback program like in Australia? Maybe limit to 1 or 2 guns per person like in Israel.?

Though I have to say the threat of “violence” doesnt really make me happy about leaving guns in these peoples hands. If a person can say I’m a nice guy but if you come for my gun I’m shooting you (and you are the second person on this thread who said this) makes me less supportive of “gun rights” not more