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Every subject is open for discussion, and good respectful discussion is very constructive, nonetheless all discuusions should take place within parameters of ??? ??? and ????????????. this is especially true when discussing the opinions f ????? ?????? ???? ????”?.
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I have already written that the ???? clearly says ???? ???? ?????? ?? ??? ??? if one understands this ?????? then you are obviously right there is only one ???? is there 600k daily or not. As the ?”? and ??”? both agree that ??? ????? ??? ??????? then obviously virtually every eiruv is kosher.
Nonetheless, there is a suggestion – primarily by ????? ?’ ??? ????????? about brooklyn and the ???? ???? about London, to say that the ???? does not refer too a literal 600k every day, rather, basically, the ???? means a street which is ????? for 600 k. Exactly what each pisek held, and exactly how one is ???? the ?????? can be debated, and it remains ????? ?????? ?????.
The ??? ?????? ???? ???????? ???”? excludes ???? ??????? – 9 it also excludes ????? ???? and a couple of other roads.
as far as I understand, this effectively means that ??????? ?’ ???? ????? ???? ??’ ??? ??????? ???’ are excepting the ???? of the ???? ???? and therefore make a point to exclude these roads. [ As a matter of interest Rabbi Weiis , Rabbi meir bransdorfer ??”?, abd Rabbi Roberts all consider themselves ??????? of ????? ?’ ???? ????? ?????? who also expressed opposition – at least verbally -for the London eiruv. ] ?? ?? ???? this is the basic of the eida hachareidis who are clearly differentiating between London and yerushalayim.
The same applies in ??? ??? the ?????? ?’ ????? ??????? ??”? and ????”? ?’ ????? ????? ????”? have excluded ???? 4 from the eiruv, again R’ Chayim wosner has said that one may not carry in GG.
There is another big heter for roads, and that is by making ???? ?????. the ???? ?????? clearly writes that a road that bends is not a ??”? , police barriers ?????? are at least equal.
BTW, in case you guys are convinced that I am a card carrying anti eiruv member, I left golders green twenty years ago. When I was there no one walked around wearing a tallis, yidden joined in the VE day celebrations, Rabbi Jakovitz was chief rabbi, and corporal punishment – including shoe confiscation – was still used in all schools.