Ugh, you guys are fools. I’m sorry, but you can’t say I didn’t warn you.
You can’t do stuff like admit that people are generally less tznius than 500 years ago in a discussion like this even if it’s true. Why? Because this whole thing got started from a totally innocent, non-controversial comment by CS about women being well put together (in contrast to the men) while ALSO keeping fully tznius (she specified the latter part several times).
This was always about looking respectable vs. disheveled, and you let him make it about tznius. Now, you guys took the bait and your latest comments make it look like your making a mockery of hilchos tznius, which we all know isn’t your intention. Joseph wins the day as far as I’m concerned. You others should have listened when I said not to respond.