“i dont understand the Israeli Charedi vision.”
They have wealthy family and/or sponsors in the US who do the dirty work (i.e. the kind of jobs you mentioned). I don’t want to say that the dynamic of having some people be full time learners and some people be balhabatim who sponsor leaning is inherently wrong (although I know the MO disagrees with it, I can see both sides). It’s only natural that the balhabatish side of the community would reside in the country with the better economy, the US, and the learning side of the community would reside in the country that’s a welfare state.
For the YU thing, I didn’t expect you to agree. I had no intention on changing your opinions or belittling them. The only reason I brought it in is because I thought people were making a kal v’chomer that “if a frum person wouldn’t be willing to send his son to YU, then he definitely wouldn’t be willing to send him to a secular university.” This is not the reality.