jay23,
1- in your understanding how would a study ever be done to prove mmr doesn’t cause autism
2-if the rate of autism is 1-500 then why does a group of 7500 non mmr kids have more than 15 autistic kids ? (68 no less)and what does that have to do with the other 7 billion people on this planet. Please explain
Re. #1: I would need to know exactly how many children in the full 95k, would get autism from genetics even without MMR. Once i know this, I can calculate a legitimate ratio, measuring the level of risk for genetically-triggered Autism. Then I would compare that to the MMR ratio.
Re. #2: The ratio based on the 7,500 violated step #1 of calculating a risk ratio. You created a group based on something silly. So you got a silly ratio.
That ratio just shows the number of non-MMR children who developed Autism. You cannot take that further and say, “this is the ratio for Genetic Autism”. If you were measuring generic Autism, what business do you have looking at vaccine records?
You never tried truly measuring genetic-Autism. If you did, you would need to include all 95K. Because that’s the process for calculating a ratio. You need to include EVERYONE who was initially subject to the risk.
If you want to measure genetic-Autism, do that. But don’t measure non-MMR, then tell me this is the number you measured for genetic Autism.
If you divided those 95,000 children based on their sock color, i guarantee you that the ratios would be different too. Because that’s the ratio for sock colors, not the ratio for genetic-Autism.
Even though they happen to be inflicted with genetic-Autism. Doesn’t change the fact that the ratio is a ratio for sock colors or non-MMR, not a true ratio for genetic-Autism.
Those 68 children don’t reflect on the power of genetic Autism, because you didn’t bother to check who in the entire 95k are susceptible to genetic Autism. You singled out 7500 who didn’t get MMR and calculated a false ratio. This is a ratio of people who are non-MMR, who happen to have genetic Autism.
Having genetic-Autism, doesn’t make it a ratio for genetic-Autism.
Re 2b: “what does that have to do with the other 7 billion people on this planet.”
If you want to calculate a legit ratio, you need to include all the people who were initially subject to the risk. Because only then, can you measure the true power of the risk.