anonymous-manitou-avi k,
your childishness astounds me. you approach every topic of discussion in an extremely superficial and childish way.
Since you decided to bash the gedolim, anonymous, I will respond to you.
One thing about gedolim is that they actually understand the Torah that they learn, and don’t twist it to meet their own agendas.
Where does the mishna you quoted state that there needs to be a tefilla instituted into davening to pray for the welfare of the state? That IS what you are trying to prove. All it says is that you should daven. Nobody would disagree with that.
your tactics are actually quite sick. you leave people thinking that you gave a valid answer, when it is just classic sheker, the kind with a smidge of somewhat emes, to trick anyone who hears it.
we know that deep down you guys are against the charedim out of hate, as has been shown very clearly.
I love eretz yisrael, the state, and the yidden there, frum or secular.
you cant bring yourself to love a yeshivishe or chareidi yid.
so sorry for you
The summary of this entire thread- if you are gonna open your mouth, at least say something valid, dont pervert the Torah and every statement of chazal that you find.
avi k- you said the gemara about lifum gamla shichana was talking about LGBT and others. shameful.
be a whatever kind of jew you are, just don’t pervert the gemara!