Shwarmarai
Firstly let me thank you for a reasoned logical response.
It’s a pleasure to finally get to the matter at hand instead of being sidetracked by meaningless conjecture and personal attacks.
We can argue about your nuanced understanding of the gemorah.
But I won’t for two reasons
Firstly because this is not the correct forum for that.
But more importantly because I asked for an alternative understanding of the sources I quoted and you provided one.
I don’t agree but that’s already a nuanced difference which neither of us will succeed in convincing the other.
What I will argue with you on is the following.
”As you must know, I agree wholeheartedly with Syag that this is not about Halacha. Halacha is broad and dynamic and full of contradiction — and you can always find a source to back you up.”
No. It is about halacha. It is about having moved the conversation from (im paraphrasing)
Hitting is not in the chinuch arsenal and is against the Torah (with you have openly stated you also don’t agree with)
To where the current conversation seems to be, To wit, of course there is a place in chinuch for hitting and it is sourced in the Torah. But it’s not as common as ”you ” think/not so applicable in our times.
That has been my contention since I jumped into this thread, and now it seems you back me up. So I have been successful in defending the truth of our Torah.
Thank you
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