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ubiquitin
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2scents
“In Israel this has happened numerous times and has clearly limited the scope of damage of these attacks. ”
Israel has very strict gun regulation
If we were to enact SOME of their restrictions that would be fine.

akuperma
For the first 200 years of its existence the 2nd amendment was not understood as applying to “the people”
As Warren Burger said “that the Second Amendment “has been the subject of one of the greatest pieces of fraud—I repeat the word ‘fraud’—on the American public by special interest groups that I have ever seen in my lifetime”

you say
“If you believe the government is inherently benign ”

how does this work? Tax day is coming up I think taxes are tyrannical do you support my right to defend my property from the tyrannical IRA when they come a’knockin?
Is there any armed rebellion uprising that you support in the past 228 years of the 2nd amendments existence?
how does this work exactly?

curiosity
“You totally missed the point of the explosives conversation”
I didn’t, you were repeating silly talking points that get repeated over and over again .

Yoour next 2 steps are equally silly (for example “Many potentially harmful drugs are currently illegal to own for anyone other than medical entities” is pure nonsense.
Lets keep the steps shorter and accurate:

1) Drugs are harmful, they do have benefits so we keep them regulated. For example You need a prescription to get them (It is not illegal for a non-medical entity to own, Oxycodone, morphine, fentanyl etc I’m not sure hwere you got that idea from ) .

2) Guns are harmful, they do have benefits so we should keep them regulated

The one true statement was “Yes, those who deal drugs illegally will do so despite the current law” Yet you correctly realize that just because their are criminals is not a reason to make their criminal lives easier. similarly just because criminals will get guns (or explosives) even if they are regulated is not a reason not to regulate them

“There is no benefit to society since there is no productive use for these things ”
Says you! why kind of big brother are you to decide what is of benefit to me! some think there is benefit to having a gun in their home, others think being able to get high is a benefit. You do realize that their is a reason why people like cocaine right? IT isn’t because their “is no benefit”