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Chossid
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Thanks for speaking up and saying it’s wrong to accuse us for davaning to the Rebbe.
The thing is not only it’s not true, it’s outrageous for someone to think that we do, because the more you learn about Hashem and the way he creates the world every second……. The more you understand how the only person you should serve is Hashem himself.

The question is who spreads these lies together with a bunch of other ones about Chabad?.

“however, to say ” with the rebbes help” in place of “bezras Hashem” (and other similar switcharoos) and that IS said and is definitely very much attributing Hashems kochoc to a person.”

We don’t ח”ו replace Hashem with Rebbe ח”ו.
Hashem gave a tzdik certain choichois to give brochois, and one of thing a Rebbe does is that worries about his chassidish…
We say בעזרת ה’, when someone says that the Rebbe will help it’s not replacing Hashem ח”ו in any shape or form, we are just saying that the Rebbe will ask by Hashem to give us beochios. The only one that can give a refuah is Hashem himself, but tzdikim have the power to drawdown brochois. That’s why we go to rabbeim/tzdikim to ask for brochois, and daven by their kaver, Not that they’re Hashem ח”ו, rather that they have the power to drawn down the brochois from Hashem. Since they have a heilikeh neshoma.

“You keep telling him to stop saying l”h. Why are you not understanding that if *his* own rabbeim tell him that chabad practices a”z, then reagrdless of what YOUR opinion is, he is *obligated* to speak badly about it to deter others from buying into it. You should not be having trouble understanding that”

I think I have explained myself already, but I will try again.

First if you want people not to come to Lubavitche you should explain to them how special he is that he grew up litvish, (it’s basics of yeddishkiet that if you want to feel special, you bring up yourself and not put down others.) And that is the source of the persons problem, he feels that the litvishe outlook one life is not positive ect. So if you want to him not to come to Chabad, you go to the root of the problem, and explain how special the litviss derech is. And not put down Lubavitche. And if you can’t explain it to him then I guess there’s a problem.

Second If LerntminTayrah quotes a godols words with explanation why we are violating the 13 ekrei hoamuna, ovid avoda zorah, Lev tohor, compare to Christians, and all the rest of the nonsense taeinois that he has, then i can’t have teinois on the the godol, (whether I agree or not), but if he doesn’t quote a godol and a source with an explanation, and can’t answer my questions then he is saying straight out loshen hara (which it doesn’t look like he cares about) or he got to take back his teinois. (Which he hasn’t yet)
Hope you understand, just trying to be reasonable.

Just because you hear radical stuff about Lubavitche it doesn’t means it’s true, not every Joe schmo can have an opinion, and second if you hear something you don’t like it’s only normal if you are sincere to ask about it and find out exactly what it’s means, and not come up with your own conclusions, rather go and ask a well respected Lubavitcher for explanation.

There is so many leis about chabad (like you yourself see) and you should think twice before you post a comment online that stays there forever, tat is loshen hara.
It’s a terrible synonym כל המספר לשון הרע כאילו כופר בעיקר.

I hope you understand.