Reply To: Going t Kever Rochel – “Mama Rochel helf mir”

Avram and Reb Yid, clearly you disagree with the statement made by Sam Klien – “A person should not need a middleman (Rebbe or rav etc…) to turn to for help when he needs help from Hashem. He should go Directly to Hashem and ask for whatever he lacks. ”

Your position is that it’s ok to ask a LIVING person for help to daven on your behalf.

Lerntmin goes further “The Pri Megadim defends it (Kolev asking the dead for help) and says it’s not a violation of the 5th ikkar because they are asking him to intercede with Hashem. The dead person isn’t all-powerful and isn’t Hashem in a human body.”

Seems the position of the Pri Megadim is that it IS ok to turn to the dead for help to daven on our behalf (as Kalev did).

Yet many are against the chassidic way of asking the Rebbe for a brocha when a yeshuah is needed, claiming as Sam Klien did (and I heard this often), why go to others, you can daven directly to Hashem yourself?!

Lately, we of the Litvish world have begun treating our Gedolim as Rebbes and asking them for brochas and yeshuos. We adopted the chassidic ways!

Do you not see the confusion here???

To me, this is the blurring of the lines.