KY
“I still don’t see any brilliance in it.”
Like I said (twice, three times? )
“Of course If you don’t like it that is fine too”
It will be ok, don’t worry about it.
Joseph
“ubiq: Correct me if I’m not following your line of thought/reasoning correctly. You’ve taken the following positions: 1. Most Chareidi men would vote against women’s suffrage today.”
Perhaps “many” I’m not super sure about “most” but it is plausible
“2. Joseph claims he would vote against women’s suffrage today.”
True
“3. You think there’s a 90% likelihood that Joseph is pulling everyone’s leg on this. (Or Poe’s law or trolling or whatever you want to call it.)”
true
“4. You think there’s a 10% likelihood that Joseph is expressing an earnest opinion. In which case Poe/trolling doesn’t apply.”
My point is there is no way to know .
“my question is do you think that having the sincere opinion that women’s suffrage was and is a bad idea is an “extremist” opinion. ”
Of course, I think most people who actually have that view (not you) would agree.
“Then please define why you think it’s extremist”
Because it is well outside the overton window , ie it is a view that very few hold, this by definition makes it “extreme”
Even you know this as you let slip “But I also think that most of them wouldn’t admit this in a survey.” why wouldn’t they admit it in a survey ?
“And if so, you by definition think most Chareidi men are extremists.”
I’m confused. Of course! Does anyone think otherwise (of course it depends with regard to what) but certainly with woman’s issues charediim, in general, (and in truth probably all Religous Jews) are pretty extreme. you don’t think not wanting pictures of women in a magazine, say one geared to women, is extreme? That doesnt make it wrong, it may be needed to counteract the tumah in the world so we go to extreme tznius t o fight of the extreme tumah or whatever, but I think most charedidim admit proudly that they have extremist views.