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klugeryid
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Yes basically you are understanding correctly what I’m trying to say.
One can say that a molester is a mazik, and as such is chayav the same as any other mazik .
But that is not a special chiyuv for molestation.

You can tell your rov that I went to a mainstream American charaydi yeshiva.
If you can , please find out from him, chapter and verse, the punishment for a non Jew being meanes a non Jewish woman, and the source for special treatment (ie extra severity ) of a molester.
(please don’t get me wrong. I have no soft feelings for molesters and would not allow my child in one’s presence. But that doesn’t necessarily translate into severe punishment for the fellow. I don’t make hashems cheshbonos ). If the torch does not proscribe a specific punishment, whether rabbinical or Torah, then it normally indicates a lower severity.

I don’t see how my post shows stifling me critical thinking.
I may be flat out wrong, but I am certainly engaging in non standard thinking.
If anything I think most people would never entertain such ideas since nobody else does. And they would never bother to think for themselves as to whether they are correct or not.
I believe I am engaging in critical thought.
Again, I may be factually totally wrong, and I’m open to hearing it. But just for someone to tell me “that’s perverse thought ”
I don’t really give any weight to that.
If I’m wrong show me.
I stated clear supposedly factual positions. If I’m wrong it should be pretty easy to show