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klugeryid
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ubiq
the brisker rav says
on the statement “if we would not have the torah we would learn … from the …
“but now that we do have the torah we do not do things because of our understanding
we only do what the torah says we dont learn it on our own”
same with that rashi.which btw does not say what you claim at all
it says were they not commanded they are worthy that they should be commanded
in other words as opposed to chukim which are not understandable, these are.
nowhere indicating that we would be chayav without the torah commanding us.
thats why i like chapter and verse so i can look it up!

ubiq
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“KY
“I keep going back to punishment because that was my original question.”

But you only asked that after my question.”
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really?????

here is my original comment from the question on this thread
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As a test, I’ll repeat a question I asked a while ago on a different thread, which got no answer there.
What should be the punishment for someone who is מאנס a woman who was previously married and is now divorced

now with a break put in cause you obviously missed it

As a test, I’ll repeat a question I asked a while ago on a different thread, which got no answer there.
What should be the*************** punishment **************for someone who is מאנס a woman who was previously married and is now divorced

not sure what is unclear about that
thats why i like chapter and verse

im still waiting for the gemorah you quoted which im not familiar with
and mareh mekomos from your rav

Are you not aware that “som tasim aleicha melech” is a mitzvah? I don’t understand why you dismiss this so quickly
because of the passuk before it
אשימה עלי מלך**** ככל הגויים ****אשר סביבותי
and look at the haftarah of korach we just lained where shemuel tells the yiddin how bad it is that they asked for a king
(yes the ramban says its a mitzvah to ask ****just like maakeh)

phil you just went nasty for no reason
but ill answer you anyway
the torah enjoyns us not to act out upon our emotions
we are not forbidden from having them
additionally look at the story of dina
the emotion is correct in its anger in certain cases
i am discussing punishment
see above