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Joseph
“On what basis would you assume gezel of kesef is less severe than attacking a divorcee?”

We can ask people who’ve had both done to them

KY
“my neighbor thinks scratching his car is the worst offense you can do
he thinks its at least as bad as murder
how would you respond ?”

I guess I would say “What a Rasha I can’t believe someone did that to your car. If only he did the much less severe act of raping someone.” ???
what would you say?

What would you say to Nosson Hanavi, when asked about the rich thief? Would you say he is just as bad as the poor thief. (Yes beis din treats them the same I’m not disputing that, but is their “badness” the same?)

“your really going to judge severity by peoples feelings?”
not “people” per se, but someone qualified. a King (see derashs haRan regarding the din meelch vs din beis din) A beis din/kehal leadership. See Teshuvas Rivash 399 ” ולפי זה עלה בידינו שהקהל …”יכולים לקנוס בתקנותיהם כפי אשר יראה בעיניה ”

” ועוד שהרי אפי’ בדיני נפשות היו ב”ד מכין ועונשין שלא מן התורה כדי לעשות סייג לתורה ומשום מיגדר מלתא ” See there at length.

“but you’ve given me much to think about
thank you”

thanks for the kind words. Sometimes I get caught up in the excitement of discussions and stick in needless snark . kudos to you for being above that and always posting so nicely