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ubiquitin
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KY
to clarify what I meant by “Falling back on the bill of rights, is silly”

If you are arguing that “guns are fun/useful /vital to our freedom/make me feel like a man ,or whatever and although as a result of that need for fun/useful /vital to our freedom/make me feel like a man -guns we have one of the highest rates of gun deaths, but that is a price I’m willing to pay for my fun/useful /vital to our freedom/make me feel like a man- gun” so much so that I’m glad its enshrined in the bill of rights making it difficult to regulate. ”
I would hear that argument. I disagree, but we can agree to disagree (except for the vital to our freedom argument that one is real nonsense) .
People bring up the absurd comparison to cars / knives, obviously a country with no cars has less car deaths, but we agree (I assume ) that the price of deaths related to cars is worth the benefits cars provide. We of course regulate cars heavily (far more than guns) but the benefit outweighs the price.
So be clear, on your position: mass shootings are a price you are willing to pay for the unrestricted right to have some fun at the range/feel like a man etc.

but the argument that “Well yeah its pretty crazy that we have such lax gun laws which of course result in our high gun crime rate, but “like it or not the bill of rights gives the right to bear arms” ” is just bonkers, isn’t true nor logical.