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ubiquitin
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“Where are you getting this from? States with stricter gun laws don’t always have fewer gun deaths,”

See State gun laws, gun ownership, and mass shootings in the US: cross sectional time series
BMJ 2019;364:l542

(Though of course not “always” it is a trend)

“unless you are counting suicides by gun. Most honest people will agree that the “national discussion” is not about suicide”

The article I cited was about “mass shootings” not sucidie. Though I’m not quite sure why “most honest people” don’t care about suicide, but in an effort to be honest I’ll srt aside my concern for suicides and cite an article that isnt about suicides.

“Additionally, comparing against other western countries is not a fair comparison, as none have a 2A, nor the deeply entrenched gun culture. ”

The 2a has been addressed several times in this thread. Other ccountires didnt have a constitution spporting slavery nor a deeply entrenched slave cuture. That doesnt mean nothing shoudlve been done regarding slavery.
If you think slavery is just, say so. dont blame the constitution nor slave culture.
If you think gun ownership is worth the price we pay, say so, dont blame the Constitution or gun culture

“There are over 300 million guns owned by US Citizens, 1.2 guns per legal citizen (wikipedia). No other country in the world comes close”

Ummmmm yeah thats kind of my point!

“If legal gun owners were the problem, you’d know about it.”
again, um yeah.
(though to be fair, Im not arguing to take away guns)