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ubiquitin
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Just to make sure the conversation is clear.

The discussion was whether the severity of an act is ALWAYS determined based on the aveira.

KY initially said yes. to which we came up with over 2 dozen exceptions (to be fair KY said he thought I meant we NEVER judge the severity of an act based on the aveira which is of course nonsense as there are multiple explicit gemaras that say we do) .

My discussion with Ky has now shifted a bit, as to whether we can come up with these exceptions on our own. I don’t have a great mekor for that (also “on our own” is hard to define. Obviously Dovid Hamelech or chazal coming up with a sevara doesnt mean we can, but what about the Kitzur? I would say if he can then we can, but I grant that reasonable people can draw that line in different places , so our excellent conversation fizzled a bit .

Thus when you say ” this refutes your contention Remarkably”
I’m not sure what you mean.

I have proven that severity of an act is not always based on the severity of punishment by compiling over 25 exceptions (sure we can quible on a few but most are solid, and some are even pesukim)
This is no longer the point of dispute (and again IIRC KY said it never was)