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ubiquitin
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” what you wrote is simply not true, and quoting a bunch of liars doesn’t make it true. ”

I know you are but what am I?
Seriously, data please.

“When you adjust for demographics the US is very far from the lead in homicide rates, even if you artificially limit your inquiry to “high income countries” (and why would you do that?)”

you would do that becasue obviously homicide is governed by many factors not solely gun ownership. Obviously a society with no police force (or an ineffective one) would likely have more homicides (as chazal tell us). Additionally poverty plays a role. Thus by limiting ourselves to high income countries, we control some of those factors.

” In NY private sellers are at the mercy of dealers because they have to get a dealer to run the check for them. That is a big problem.”
why is that a problem? let alone a big one?

“Because if you’re not, then how do you suggest private sellers of guns get access to background checks on their buyers?”
Easy, we can have the buyer have to provide consent for the background check.
and right back at you, assuming you support background checks at all, Are you really claiming that in order to prevent a schizophrenic with criminal history from getting a gun you would be willing to let any gun dealer run a criminal check on you, for any reason they like?!
either you support background checks, and any obstacle that can be overcome by licensed gun dealers can be overcome by unlicensed gun dealers. Or you dont support background checks, proving my original point in bringing this up in response to bk613 incorrect assertion that “I don’t think any rational person is arguing that a schizophrenic with a criminal record should legally be allowed to own a gun.”

“Another point: Imposing background checks on private sellers will do nothing to satisfy the gun-grabbers.”
thats a silly, point If background checks are a good thing we should impose them if not, then we shouldn’t, worrying about what would and wouldn’t satisfy gun grabbers is not a logical way to make decisions.