Reply To: Can the severity of a sin be learned from the severity of the punishment?

I guess we are talking different languages. The Chafetz Chaim says very clearly
It’s worse to be מוציא שם רע that a woman was מזנה then to be מאנס her.
Yes saying Rachel was מזנה is a bigger sin then being מאנס Rachel. Yes. Yes. Yes. It’s worse. Yes. Bigger. If he is a big למדן and he feels that he wants to sin between these two and he wants to do the smaller sin he would pick being מאנס the girl.
I don’t know how I can be more clear and unhesitating.
I’m getting lost in your example so I didn’t give clear answers.
Apply what I said to your example and yes. That’s what I’m saying.
But it’s not me saying it. It’s the Chafetz Chaim quoting a gemorah.
And it doesn’t seem to sit well with you. Hence your examples.
Which is exactly my point. ”our ” internal moral compass is sometimes at odds with the Torah’s moral compass.

If I gleaned anything from your example, it’s that you think it’s absurd to say the fellow downgraded his evil status by actually raping the girl.
It’s פשוט to you that that is worse. But that is exactly what the ח”ח is coming to oppose.
He is specifically addressing that.
He is saying it’s simple that nobody in his right mind would go be מזנה just because he is angry at his friend.
Yet he will say לשון הרע WHICH IS MUCH WORSE as evidenced from the fact that for being מוציא שם רע the punishment is worse then raping (end quote)
The ח”ח equated לשה”ר ומוציא שם רע
The ח”ח equated their worseness over אונס ומפתה
I don’t know why you are surprised at what I am saying.
How else can you possibly read the words of the ח”ח ??
I’m just reading.
I’m not at all bothered because I’ve learned long ago that my gut feelings often don’t line up with the Torah. So I suspend my own judgement quite easily.
So to me it seems odd.
Big deal! my puny brain obviously is missing a lot of information that the Torah has.

Sorry if I went long and redundant. I’m trying to be very clear so you don’t say I’m avoiding answering.
Yes! saying מוציא שם רע is worse than raping someone.

Clear enough?